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   <title>Skem Mysteries 7: Half Mile Island</title>
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   <published>2008-01-24T10:28:51Z</published>
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   <summary> WE donâ€™t do things by â€˜halfâ€™ in Skem ... unless of course youâ€™re talking about Half Mile Island! For this beast is the daddy of all our roundabouts â€“ the creme de la creme of traffic management systems. It...</summary>
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<strong>WE donâ€™t do things by â€˜halfâ€™ in Skem ... unless of course youâ€™re talking about Half Mile Island!</strong>

For this beast is the daddy of all our roundabouts â€“ the creme de la creme of traffic management systems.

It takes about a minute to get the whole way round, by which point you will have clocked up 880 yards (or a whopping 80,467cm for those of you working in metric).

On Monday, after many years navigating it by car I actually got out and waded into the middle of it, the purpose of which is illustrated by the photograph you see before you today.

I suppose Iâ€™ve always found Half Mile Island a curious structure.

Coming from a town with no roundabouts at all, I was always amazed (or is that horrified?) that Skem can pack so many into such a small area.

But Half Mile Island itself is, like many famous landmarks, a damn sight bigger when you see it up close.

To give you some idea, it took me almost 10 minutes to walk around the whole of it. And as the crow flies, itâ€™s quicker to get to the end of the North Pier at Blackpool or walk around the pitch at Anfield ... twice.

But even if you take away the sheer size of it, Half Mile Island is an excellent example of Skemâ€™s history both pre and post-New Town.

The land has never actually been built on â€“ ever. It was once part of farmland which made up the old community of Stormy Corner. Stormy was, in fact, a tiny hamlet which stretched from the old Seven Stars pub (where the subway at the bottom of Berry Street is today) right up to Rawsthorneâ€™s buildings, approximately where the recycling centre is now.

In the 1960s when the New Town development was in full swing, the idea was that the town was going to have a population of 80,000 and, therefore, needed a road system to cope with that.

Also, and more importantly, Stanley Industrial Estate was to be one of the first economic powerhouses of this big shiny new town and as such massive lorries would be coming along day in, day out.

The problem with Stanley was its distance from the M58 and as such Pimbo and Gillibrands overtook it, leaving the town with a massive roundabout which was basically running at 20 per cent capacity.

In fact, itâ€™s only in recent years that Stanley has started to grow with the new Asda and Comet warehouses, meaning that the island is now being put to proper use. And with more land going up for sale opposite Great Bear and off Spa Lane, itâ€™s now needed more than ever.

One final point thatâ€™s worth mentioning, is the claim that it is the largest roundabout in Europe. I was keen to check whether this was actually true, or just Skem urban myth and legend â€“ you know, the kind of tall stories which always seems to involve Elvis not being dead and working in the Conny!

Well, according to Kevin Beresford author of The Roundabouts of Great Britain, Half Mile Island could, in fact, be the biggest in the world!

He told the Advertiser: â€œThe thing is there arenâ€™t that many roundabouts in the world and Iâ€™ve travelled from Landâ€™s End to John Oâ€™Groats and never came across one that big.

â€œThereâ€™s one in Basingstoke but thatâ€™s only a quarter of a mile, so yours could be the biggest. Then again, it depends whether youâ€™d class the M25 as a roundabout.â€?

And Kevin reckons that if it is the biggest in the world, the council ought to promote it: â€œYou could have big lights on it and everything, plus a big sign. The council is missing a trick if it didnâ€™t recognise this unique thing on its own doorstep.â€?

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   <title>Skem Mysteries 6: The Conny Pyramid</title>
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   <published>2007-12-18T16:54:39Z</published>
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   <summary> THIS week weâ€™re looking at Skemâ€™s original public art masterpiece. Many moons ago â€“ long before it was decided our roundabouts needed to be littered with loads of weird conceptual designs to distract us from the road â€“ Skem...</summary>
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<strong>THIS week weâ€™re looking at Skemâ€™s original public art masterpiece.</strong>

Many moons ago â€“ long before it was decided our roundabouts needed to be littered with loads of weird conceptual designs to distract us from the road â€“ Skem just had the Conny Pyramid.

From the mid-1980s, kiddies being dragged along for the weekly shop would gaze at in amazement while the more curmudgeonly would only tut and say: â€œHuh, wonder how much that cost us in taxes!â€?

Standing 11 metres high outside the old outdoor seating area, it was actually a wooden and concrete homage to the old Skelmersdale Development Corporation logo. 

In fact, it was intended as a â€œparting giftâ€? to Skem as the SDC was wound up in 1984 and was taken over by the Commission for New Towns. 

At that point the Concourse was owned by CNT and remained so until sold off to a private company called Ossory Road. 

In 1989, the centre was extended and the grand, glass facade was added. The multi-storey car park was also built and because of that, the pyramid went as well. Thatâ€™s not to say that some werenâ€™t glad to see the back of it.

Just a few years after it was installed, concern was mounting about kiddies climbing up onto the pyramid and potentially hurting themselves. Remember, these were the days before â€˜elf and safety was properly invented but nevertheless it led to the old police superintendent for Skem, Barry Williams, saying at the time: â€œWeâ€™re very concerned about this. Thereâ€™s a very real risk of injury if a child slips.â€?

Sid Hughes, who had a shop opposite, added: â€œSomeone will either be killed or seriously injured. The pyramid is a waste of money.â€?

But whatever became of the pyramid? Surely, something which symbolised a major part of Skelmersdaleâ€™s history would have been saved?

Unfortunately not, according to the Concourseâ€™s assistant manager, Kath Walters, who has been there since 1974 and remembers the pyramid very well.

She told me: â€œTrimmers hairdressers was outside then as there was a big square with seating and which included the pyramid. I remember people complaining about it so when the Concourse expanded it was just a case of demolish it.â€?

So there you have it, another Skem icon disappears from our landscape never to be seen again except in old photos. Itâ€™s funny actually, given that even though there were complaints about it at the time, people seem to remember it for all the right reasons.

Then again, as the old saying goes, you never really know what youâ€™ve got until itâ€™s gone...

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   <title>Skem Mysteries 5: Estate Names</title>
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   <published>2007-12-18T16:50:28Z</published>
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   <summary> TONGBARN, Birkrig, Elmstead, Tarlswood, Eskdale, Lambourne ... hardly what youâ€™d class as â€œnormalâ€? street names. But then again, most things to do with Skelmersdale are hardly conventional. This week, weâ€™re looking at the townâ€™s weird street names and where...</summary>
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<strong>TONGBARN, Birkrig, Elmstead, Tarlswood, Eskdale, Lambourne ... hardly what youâ€™d class as â€œnormalâ€? street names.</strong>

But then again, most things to do with Skelmersdale are hardly conventional.

This week, weâ€™re looking at the townâ€™s weird street names and where they come from.

Unlike most other towns, very few of them have any real meaning, especially the newer ones, but it doesnâ€™t mean there isnâ€™t an interesting story behind them.

Before the New Town, Skem was like any other place in that street names corresponded to their surroundings, i.e. Church Road (home to St Paulâ€™s) and Sandy Lane (in honour of the mounds of sands which used to stand where the 1930s semis are today).

Others have a more historical meaning, such as Cardiff Street and Durham Street, named after the places where mine workers came from to work in local pits, while others are named after families (Barnes Road, Birch Street and Rigby Street, which was demolished to make way for the Waverley flats on High Street).

On that last point, itâ€™s worth noting the actual entrance to Waverley is the original Rigby Street, itâ€™s just that the old terraces arenâ€™t there any more.

But with the coming of the New Town, many roads either became old-new hybrids, such as Sherrat Street, Uppingham, or Barnes Road, Whitburn, or in many cases just got rid of altogether (Iddon Road, John Street, Elson Road and Union Street to name a few).

But when the new estates were built, thatâ€™s when the fun and games really started. It was the duty of Skelmersdale Urban District Councilâ€™s highways committees to give the roads new names.

However, they were under instruction from the General Post Office that all areas had to start with certain letters to make it easier for posties to do their rounds.

Most of the names were simply names of towns in other parts of the country, such as Elmstead (London), Alderley (Cheshire), Wolverton (Milton Keynes), Yewdale (Cumbria) and Lambourne (Essex). Itâ€™s rumoured that in many instances, it was just a case of getting out a map and finding a place beginning with a certain letter.

Only a few New Town names have a historical link, and they include Windrows, which is named after a farm which stood on School Lane.

Some however came from nowhere, like Birkrig, a name which prompted one councillor to stand up at the meeting where it was being discussed to proclaim it sounded like something from the Third Reich!

Itâ€™s interesting to note that an abortive attempt was made in 1968 to get the old street names changed to fit in with the area.

At one point, in November that year, the plight of residents in Berry Street, Martins Lane, Nixons Lane and Spencers Lane came up before the urban district council.

Moves were afoot to scrap these names and it caused a massive uproar.

Joe Cadwell, a well-known Old Skem councillor, told the meeting: â€œThese people have good reason to object. The streets were named to represent links with the past and with the growth of the town it is a good thing to retain some of its history.â€?

As we now know, that plan was ditched and thankfully Skem and Up Hollandâ€™s links with the past were preserved.

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   <title>Skem mysteries 4: Location, Location, Location</title>
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   <published>2007-12-18T16:44:49Z</published>
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   <summary> WHEN I first visited Skem, I noticed a row of terraces which completely baffled me. These werenâ€™t just any old houses, they were on a massive industrial estate and as such looked out-of-place. â€œWhy are they there?â€? I asked...</summary>
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<strong>WHEN I first visited Skem, I noticed a row of terraces which completely baffled me.</strong>

These werenâ€™t just any old houses, they were on a massive industrial estate and as such looked out-of-place.

â€œWhy are they there?â€? I asked my friend.

â€œOh, they were built for local employees so they could get to work quicker,â€? came the reply.

That was 10 years ago and I, like most people, assume that was the reason. But Itâ€™s never seemed plausible to me and, after a little detective work, Iâ€™ve found out the real reason.

In fact the homes on Glebe Road pre-date the industrial estate and the New Town. They were built many years before when the road was still part of Wigan Road.

Nowadays, Wigan Road ends just after Slack Farm at the junction with Windrows because planners needed to build Marie Curie Island. 

But if you study the old maps, you will see that Glebe Road is in fact the old Wigan Road with the same contours and â€“ as you now know â€“ same houses. The local pub for people would have been either the Fox & Goose or the Tawd Bridge, both of which have now gone.

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From their back rooms they would have had unspoilt views of the Beacon and to the front of them would have been farm houses.

So why were the homes never demolished? After all, Valentineâ€™s Farm, which had stood oppositethe terraces, was demolished to make way for the Royal Mail sorting offices.

One theory is the land quite simply wasnâ€™t needed. In November 1968, the Advertiser revealed that Gillibrands was being extended by 53 acres and the houses were in the area which was needed.

But with other land being readily available, it was deemed appropriate to use that first rather (incidentally, the original plan had been to extended Stanley but the shallow mine workings up there meant that the land was, at that time, deemed unsuitable).

However, the Glebe Road scenario is not unique in Skelmersdale.

Websterâ€™s Farmhouse, a beautiful building built in 1682, today stands perched on the edge of Stanley Industrial Estate. Again, itâ€™s undergone a change of address as it used to be part of Berry Street, Stormy Corner, but after redevelopment it was reclassified as Spa Lane.

But whatâ€™s even more amazing is that at one point it looked as if this grand old building didnâ€™t have a future.

A report by Skelmersdale Development Corporation said that it would be â€œunlikely to be worthwhile adapting for a community use or other use within the industrial area.â€?

And the governmentâ€™s recommendations were even less enthusiastic: â€œPurely of local interest which should be retained if possible.â€? In other words, if you decide to bulldoze, we wonâ€™t mind.

Thankfully, that never happened and it continues to be a magnificent site as you come back into Skem from Lathom.

Over on Pimbo, thereâ€™s the old Balcony Farm, now called Lancashire Manor Hotel. 

However, with this there was enthusiasm right from the outset that it must be retained. Indeed, the Corporation was, unlike with most other things, prepared to work around the existing structure.

Its report said: â€œIt need not be affected by the new development. It is hoped that the house and possibly other buildings can be developed into a social club or restaurant of some kind.â€?

However, it isnâ€™t just the industrial estates where there are sharp contrasts between the old and new. Anyone who lives on Acregate, Little Digmoor, will know the old cottage on the edge of the estate.

According to Skelmersdale Heritage Society, in the 1930s it was occupied by a Harry Fleetwood who was the local postman. At that time the cottage stood at the end of a row of others which was at that time part of Back Lane.

But the Advertiser archives confirm that when it came to building the ring road (Digmoor Road) they saw no reason to demolish it as it wasnâ€™t in the path of the proposed route, hence its existence to this day.

Similarly, take a trip down Barnes Road in Old Skem and youâ€™ll see a row of beautiful old houses sitting right next to the Whitburn flats. The same goes for Witham Road and so on.

I guess this all proves that even though Skem is now a New Town, youâ€™re never too far from a link with its past...

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   <title>Skem Mysteries 3: Town with no shortcuts</title>
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   <published>2007-12-18T16:38:11Z</published>
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   <summary> THEREâ€™S certain words youâ€™ll never hear in Skem, such as â€œtraffic jamâ€? or â€œred lightâ€?. After all, the unique way the town was planned ensures that cars are able to flow freely, something our neighbours in Ormskirk and Wigan...</summary>
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<strong>THEREâ€™S certain words youâ€™ll never hear in Skem, such as â€œtraffic jamâ€? or â€œred lightâ€?.</strong>

After all, the unique way the town was planned ensures that cars are able to flow freely, something our neighbours in Ormskirk and Wigan can only dream of.

But thereâ€™s also another word which youâ€™ll never hear in Skem ... and thatâ€™s â€œshortcutâ€?.

Yep, for all the benefits of our gridlock-free town, thereâ€™s still some parts where, quite frankly, itâ€™s quicker to walk.

I touched on this last week in the article about the Sandy Lane staircase ensuring a 10-yard walk turns into a one-mile car journey.

To prove this isnâ€™t just a one-off, I conducted a little test this week by picking five random points across town to see whether it was quicker to walk.

The results were astounding, and proved my theory that if you want to get anywhere quick in Skem youâ€™re better off with Shanksâ€™s pony.

And the burning question is â€“ what was the reasoning behind it?

Like most Skem quirks, I traced it back to the 1960s and Skelmersdale Development Corporation.

At that time, there was a big push to keep traffic and people as far apart as possible. Fatalities in places such as Liverpool meant that people coming into the New Town would see this as an attraction.

The creation of the main outer roads; Stannanought, Houghtons, Glenburn, Neverstitch, and Railway, coupled with the smaller, more local carriageways such as Digmoor Road, Northway, South and Tanhouse Road, meant these routes had no houses on them but were far enough away from the estates they served.

It wasnâ€™t so much of a problem in Digmoor, Tanhouse, Birch Green and Ashurst, which were rural pastures prior to the 60s, but in Old Skem and Holland Moor, it meant blocking some roads off and in some cases curtailing them,

Those affected included Field Street, Old Skem, which banned traffic completely, and Spencers Lane in Tawd Bridge, which was actually cut in half with the rest of the road being given over for the then new Abbeystead development.

But more than 40 years on, havenâ€™t people got used to it yet? Well, locals maybe but even now thereâ€™s some who couldnâ€™t tell you how to get from one end of Tanhouse to the other. Also, thereâ€™s now more and more people visiting Skem who are utterly baffled by the road system.

But surely itâ€™s safer? 

Not so, says Margaret Highton, from Cornbrook, a passionate campaigner for road safety: â€œI think it gives people a false sense of security. Also, youâ€™ve got people walking along the roads. It upsets me when I see school kids do it because they walk in groups, not single file and itâ€™s dangerous.

â€œBut then again thereâ€™s no footpaths. I walk along the roads when visiting my daughter in Tanhouse because I wonâ€™t go in the subways. I take a chance and hop onto the grass verge when cars come along. Subways arenâ€™t the safest places to go because they flood and theyâ€™re dark.â€?

It makes you wonder whether the 1960s ideals are really compatible with 2007 and the need to cut fuel consumption.

Perhaps one day in light of that weâ€™ll get a more direct road system. Until then, prepare to be driven around the bend â€“ literally!

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   <title>Skem Mysteries 2: Sandy Lane staircase</title>
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   <published>2007-12-18T16:29:32Z</published>
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   <summary> PICTURE the scene â€“ itâ€™s 1970 and the great and good charged with transforming Skelmersdale from a tiny village to thriving New Town are sat around a large table. Thick cigarette smoke clings to the air, slowly turning the...</summary>
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<strong>PICTURE the scene â€“ itâ€™s 1970 and the great and good charged with transforming Skelmersdale from a tiny village to thriving New Town are sat around a large table.</strong>


Thick cigarette smoke clings to the air, slowly turning the oak panelled walls nicotine yellow. The clink of tea cups and saucers, not to mention the ensuing slurps, only serve to add to the din, which started some minutes earlier when the assortment of men in pinstripe suits and perfectly trimmed moustaches where asked: â€œSo gentlemen, how do we improve Sandy Lane to ensure it continues being a thriving business centre for years to come.â€?


After around 10 minutes of furrowed brows and stroking of chins, one of them pipes up: â€œI know, letâ€™s stick a staircase in the middle of it.â€?


Excited applause all round and the man slumps back in his chair with a wide grin on his face and chomps on his cigar. He knows his place in history is secured. Thoughts of maybe an OBE spring to mind, perhaps even Freeman of the Borough status.


Okay, so that might all not be exactly as it happened but it matters not because the decision (whoever made it) was to be the most calamitous and hated in the townâ€™s long history.


Today, all we see is a large, bright yellow metal staircase plonked in the middle of Sandy Lane, something which effectively cuts the lane in two.


To drive from Gerald Bickerstaffeâ€™s butchers to the health centre car park as the crow flies is impossible. Instead of a trip of a few hundred yards, it involves a mile journey taking in now fewer than four different roads â€“ Witham Road, Railway Road, Westgate and High Street.


Down the years people have asked the same question: â€œWhy?â€? 


Back in November 1970, Lancs County County made a recommendation to close the lane to Skem and Holland Council. 


The reason was, essentially, to get traffic using the newly-built ring road and, moreover, to keep pedestrians and traffic as far apart as possible. But that suggestion, however well intentioned, went down like a lead balloon even at the time.


Cllr Phil Bond, who died around seven years ago but was Labour leader at the time, told the Advertiser: â€œ It is not for Development Corporation to come onto the estates in Old Skem and alter the layout of roads.


"We keep harking back to 1962 when the former general manager of the Corporation, George Watson, said that there would be little interference with Old Skem and it was intended to leave it as a contrast between the old and the new. This promise is now being ignored.â€?


Indeed. And judging from our archives there were more closures planned which never came to fruition.


But others did, most notably the closure of the junction of Clayton Street/School Lane and Field Street/School Lane.



Some other roads, such as Daniels Lane, Wigan Road, Mill Lane, Fir Tree Close and Berry Street were turned into cul-de-sacs.


But whereas the furore surrounding all these has died down over the years, the Sandy Lane debate still rages to this day, particularly among the Old Skemmers who remember it as it was.


So I wondered whether the council would ever consider doing away with the staircase and reopen it to through traffic for the first time in almost 40 years.


But a spokeswoman for West Lancs said it is not as straightforward as it seems: â€œThe staircase in question is actually a stepped ramp. 


â€œThis provides access for people with prams to the first floor which, aside from offices, also houses the Citizensâ€™ Advice Bureau, hairdressers and a beauty salon. 


â€œWithout the ramp these people would be unable to gain access to the first floor and so its removal is not something the council would consider at the present time.â€?


So it looks like the people of Skem are stuck with it for the moment. But you know what they say, never say never...
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   <title>Skem Mysteries 1: Whalleys Roundabout</title>
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   <published>2007-12-06T10:15:31Z</published>
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   <summary> By DAVID SUDWORTH ITâ€™S got to be the most pointless roundabout in Skelmersdale. Stuck on its own with just fields surrounding it and two unfinished junctions blocked off by heavy boulders, Whalleys traffic island has left many a driver...</summary>
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By DAVID SUDWORTH


ITâ€™S got to be the most pointless roundabout in Skelmersdale.</strong>


Stuck on its own with just fields surrounding it and two unfinished junctions blocked off by heavy boulders, Whalleys traffic island has left many a driver scratching their heads down the years.

So last week, after taking my 16th wrong turning down there this year, I decided to find out once and for all why it was ever built in the first place.

Surprisingly, my investigations found it was actually part of what was meant to be a small self-contained community containing houses, shops, a play area, meeting room, pub and even garage!

But like most big ideas of the 1970s, it never came to fruition.

The details are revealed in a little-known full colour plan published by Skelmersdale Development Corporation back in 1975.

The illustration, which is part of Skelmersdale Libraryâ€™s brilliant public archives section on the first floor, also shows that the hospital was planned for where the Great Bear factory was eventually built on Stanley Industrial Estate.

So what happened to the Whalleys plan?

It appears the 1975 document was only really an aspirational plan.

The idea was that the roads infrastructure should be built to serve any future development ... if they ever came to fruition.

Nearby Dalton Park is a classic example, with the homes built many years after the service road.

So with that in mind, will the Whalleys roundabout ever serve a useful purpose? English Partnerships, the successors to Skem Development Corporation, is certainly not ruling it out.

A spokesman told me: â€œThe land around the roundabout is owned by us and does have an allocation for housing.

â€œ But there are greenfield constraints on this, basically meaning that any brownfield sites in the area would be given priority and is subject to the local authority and regional housing boardâ€™s priorities.â€? 

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   <title>Up Holland Labour Club 1970</title>
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   <summary>TONY MARTIN, from Ashurst, handed us this pic from 1970. He is pictured on the front row (fifth from left) which shows Up Holland Labour Clubâ€™s A and B teams at Chequer Lane fields in 1970. It was taken just...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[TONY MARTIN, from Ashurst, handed us this pic from 1970.

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 He  is  pictured on the front row (fifth from  left) which shows Up Holland Labour  Clubâ€™s A and B teams at Chequer  Lane fields in 1970.
 It was taken just a year after he  moved into Elmstead from Croxteth.
 He started at Glenburn but only  had four months of full-time education left.
 Eventually, he started at the EAST  LIGHT FACTORY but his abiding  memory of the town at that time is  that there was very little here.
 â€œThere was no POLARIS or  HIGHWAYMAN pub,â€?  said Tony,  formerly of Beechtrees.
 â€œBut there was the old CROSS  KEYS pub, which used to be near the  Grimshaw, and there was the Tawd  Bridge further down at the bottom of  Ormskirk Road.
 â€œThere used to be the RIBBLE  BUS which would take us back to  Liverpool. It costs 2s 11d and funnily  enough the bus number was the  211.
 â€œAt that time, most of the kids in  GLENBURN were old Skemmers,  there were only about 20-24 Scouse  kids there so there was always a lot of  rivalry.
 â€œThere was no police station near  the CONCOURSE, it was still the old  one in CLAYTON STREET, Old  Skem, and Tanhouse had no shops.
 â€œWe moved in the April and it was  dead hot but later we had massive  snow.â€?
 As a youngster, he was really keen  on football and even donned a pair of  Alan Ball-style white boots, which  were extremely rare at the time.
 â€œThe Labour clubâ€™s A-team played  in green and black but the B team  played in this horrible orange and  black strip.
 â€œAs I was in the A team I donâ€™t  really remember any of their  names.â€?

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